5-limit

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The 5-limit consists of all justly tuned intervals whose numerators and denominators are both products of the primes 2, 3, and 5; these are sometimes called regular numbers. Some examples of 5-limit intervals are 5/4, 6/5, 10/9 and 81/80. The 5 odd-limit consists of intervals whose numerators and denominators, when all factors of two have been removed, are less than or equal to 5. Reduced to an octave, these are the ratios 1/1, 6/5, 5/4, 4/3, 3/2, 8/5, 5/3, 2/1. Approximating these ratios has been basic to Western common-practice music since the Renaissance.

The octave equivalence classes of 5-limit intervals can usefully be depicted on a lattice diagram, either as a hexagonal lattice or as a square lattice; this can be done automatically by Scala. If the intervals are depicted with maximum symmetry as a hexagonal lattice, then the corresponding 5-limit triads define a hexagonal tiling.

EDOs which do relatively well in approximating the 5-limit are 2edo, 3edo, 7edo, 9edo, 10edo, 12edo, 19edo, 22edo, 31edo, 34edo, 53edo, 118edo and 289edo.

Syntonic Comma Pairs[edit]

A significant interval in 5-limit JI is 81/80, the syntonic comma or Didymus' comma, which measures about 21.5¢. Although it rarely appears as an interval in a scale, it represents the difference between many 5-limit intervals and a nearby 3-limit (Pythagorean) interval. 81/80 is tempered out in 12edo, meantone, and many other related systems, meaning that those 5- and 3-limit distinctions are obliterated and one interval stands in for each. Living in a largely 12edo musical culture from birth, we are not accustomed to distinguishing two different major thirds, two different minor seconds, etc. Below is a list of some common intervals involving 3 and 5 which are distinguished by 81/80. The next column modifies intervals by another 81/80, for a total of 6561/6400 (43 cents). Bold fractions are simplest for this interval category.

3-limit interval interval category |5-limit interval (81/80) |Another 5-limit (6561/6400)
ratio cents value ratio cents value ratio cents value
1/1 0.000 unison C 81/80 21.506 6561/6400 43.013
2187/2048 113.685 aug. unison C# 135/128 92.179 25/24 70.672
256/243 90.225 minor 2nd Db 16/15 111.731 27/25 133.238
9/8 203.910 major 2nd D 10/9 182.404 800/729 160.897
19683/16384 317.595 aug. 2nd D# 1215/1024 296.089 75/64 274.582
32/27 294.135 minor 3rd Eb 6/5 315.641 243/200 337.148
81/64 407.820 major 3rd E 5/4 386.314 100/81 364.807
8192/6561 384.360 dim. fourth Fb 512/405 405.866 32/25 427.373
4/3 498.045 fourth F 27/20 519.551 2187/1600 541.058
729/512 611.730 aug. fourth F# 45/32 590.224 25/18 568.717
1024/729 588.270 dim. fifth Gb 64/45 609.776 36/25 631.283
3/2 701.955 fifth G 40/27 680.449 3200/2187 658.942
6561/4096 815.640 aug. fifth G# 405/256 794.134 25/16 772.627
128/81 792.180 minor 6th Ab 8/5 813.686 81/50 835.193
27/16 905.865 major 6th A 5/3 884.359 400/243 862.852
32768/19683 882.405 dim. 7th Bbb 2048/1215 903.911 128/75 925.418
16/9 996.090 minor 7th Bb 9/5 1017.596 729/400 1039.103
243/128 1109.775 major 7th B 15/8 1088.269 50/27 1066.762
4096/2187 1086.315 dim. octave Cb 256/135 1107.821 48/25 1129.328
2/1 1200.000 octave C 160/81 1178.494 12800/6561 1156.987

It is important to note that 5-limit music does not mean favoring intervals of 5 over intervals of 3. It means allowing for both 3's and 5's in generating harmonic material, and so it is an interplay between both. The 5-limit includes the 3-limit -- a work in 5-limit JI will utilize intervals from both sides of the chart above.

See Harmonic Limit

Music[edit]

Duodene2 by Chris Vaisvil

Ariel's 12-tone JI by Chris Vaisvil

The Ballad of Jed Clampett by Paul Henning

Do Wah Diddy Diddy by Barry and Greenwich

Symphony 4, first movement by William Copper

Magnificat by William Copper

Catch for Woodwin Quintet by William Copper